Discussion:
Review of The King Arthur Conspiracy
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Doug Weller
2005-11-18 13:22:48 UTC
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All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
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William Black
2005-11-18 14:37:40 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155

Scary stuff

I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.

Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...

I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and make
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
a***@hotmail.com
2005-11-18 15:09:48 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
I managed to read few pages from this one and it is rather funny. As
far as I can judge, it is
built on a standard premise 'the public is stupid and will digest
anything': all the known and
seemingly unrelated things are glued together by some clearly phony or
questionable
'links', then some ....er... 'facts' are added (with a correct
assumption that most of the
readers don't have enough knowledge and/or interest to check them) and
voila!

Of course, Templars were in the middle of it (weren't they always?) and
there were dissapearing
galleys loaded with their gold... I would think that by XXI century
most of the people
eventually figured out that the bankers don't keep most of their
capital in a bullion by a simple
reason that, unless invested, it does not bring any profit... But I
must admit that the
dissapearing treasure fleet is much more entertaining.... OTOH, was a
galley an effective
cargo ship? IIRC, most of the sea travel was done in more seaworthy
vessels.


IIRC, one of the authors was on TV in a program dedicated to 'Da Vinchi
Code' and was
doing some criticism of the ....er... facts presented in this book.
Post by Doug Weller
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
Do you prefer buckets of the today's politics? :-)
Post by Doug Weller
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and make
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
You just have to find a publisher. The rest is easy. :-)
Alan Crozier
2005-11-18 15:22:53 UTC
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Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
I managed to read few pages from this one and it is rather funny. As
far as I can judge, it is
built on a standard premise 'the public is stupid and will digest
anything': all the known and
seemingly unrelated things are glued together by some clearly phony or
questionable
'links', then some ....er... 'facts' are added (with a correct
assumption that most of the
readers don't have enough knowledge and/or interest to check them) and
voila!
Of course, Templars were in the middle of it (weren't they always?) and
there were dissapearing
galleys loaded with their gold... I would think that by XXI century
most of the people
eventually figured out that the bankers don't keep most of their
capital in a bullion by a simple
reason that, unless invested, it does not bring any profit... But I
must admit that the
dissapearing treasure fleet is much more entertaining.... OTOH, was a
galley an effective
cargo ship? IIRC, most of the sea travel was done in more seaworthy
vessels.
IIRC, one of the authors was on TV in a program dedicated to 'Da Vinchi
Code' and was
doing some criticism of the ....er... facts presented in this book.
Post by William Black
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
Do you prefer buckets of the today's politics? :-)
Post by William Black
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and make
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
You just have to find a publisher. The rest is easy. :-)
Just go to http://www.trafford.com/4dcgi/trafford.html?310191257-13525aaa,
as Grant Berkley did. Prices range from 699 to 1399 dollars.

Alan
--
Alan Crozier
Lund
Sweden
a***@hotmail.com
2005-11-18 15:53:28 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless.
But an
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
I managed to read few pages from this one and it is rather funny. As
far as I can judge, it is
built on a standard premise 'the public is stupid and will digest
anything': all the known and
seemingly unrelated things are glued together by some clearly phony or
questionable
'links', then some ....er... 'facts' are added (with a correct
assumption that most of the
readers don't have enough knowledge and/or interest to check them) and
voila!
Of course, Templars were in the middle of it (weren't they always?) and
there were dissapearing
galleys loaded with their gold... I would think that by XXI century
most of the people
eventually figured out that the bankers don't keep most of their
capital in a bullion by a simple
reason that, unless invested, it does not bring any profit... But I
must admit that the
dissapearing treasure fleet is much more entertaining.... OTOH, was a
galley an effective
cargo ship? IIRC, most of the sea travel was done in more seaworthy
vessels.
IIRC, one of the authors was on TV in a program dedicated to 'Da Vinchi
Code' and was
doing some criticism of the ....er... facts presented in this book.
Post by William Black
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
Do you prefer buckets of the today's politics? :-)
Post by William Black
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and
make
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
You just have to find a publisher. The rest is easy. :-)
Just go to http://www.trafford.com/4dcgi/trafford.html?310191257-13525aaa,
as Grant Berkley did. Prices range from 699 to 1399 dollars.
Hah! I would be into it for _getting_ money, not for paying them. :-)
Alan Crozier
2005-11-18 16:13:28 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
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Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless.
But an
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
I managed to read few pages from this one and it is rather funny. As
far as I can judge, it is
built on a standard premise 'the public is stupid and will digest
anything': all the known and
seemingly unrelated things are glued together by some clearly phony or
questionable
'links', then some ....er... 'facts' are added (with a correct
assumption that most of the
readers don't have enough knowledge and/or interest to check them) and
voila!
Of course, Templars were in the middle of it (weren't they always?) and
there were dissapearing
galleys loaded with their gold... I would think that by XXI century
most of the people
eventually figured out that the bankers don't keep most of their
capital in a bullion by a simple
reason that, unless invested, it does not bring any profit... But I
must admit that the
dissapearing treasure fleet is much more entertaining.... OTOH, was a
galley an effective
cargo ship? IIRC, most of the sea travel was done in more seaworthy
vessels.
IIRC, one of the authors was on TV in a program dedicated to 'Da Vinchi
Code' and was
doing some criticism of the ....er... facts presented in this book.
Post by William Black
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
Do you prefer buckets of the today's politics? :-)
Post by William Black
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and
make
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
You just have to find a publisher. The rest is easy. :-)
Just go to
http://www.trafford.com/4dcgi/trafford.html?310191257-13525aaa,
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
as Grant Berkley did. Prices range from 699 to 1399 dollars.
Hah! I would be into it for _getting_ money, not for paying them. :-)
It reminds me of the scene in What's New, Pussycat? where Woody Allen tells
someone about his new job, working at the striptease:

I help the girls dress and undress.
Nice job.
Twenty francs a week.
Not very much.
It's all I can afford

Alan
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Alan Crozier
Lund
Sweden
a***@hotmail.com
2005-11-19 03:17:55 UTC
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Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly,
worthless.
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
But an
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review,
see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
I managed to read few pages from this one and it is rather funny. As
far as I can judge, it is
built on a standard premise 'the public is stupid and will digest
anything': all the known and
seemingly unrelated things are glued together by some clearly phony or
questionable
'links', then some ....er... 'facts' are added (with a correct
assumption that most of the
readers don't have enough knowledge and/or interest to check them) and
voila!
Of course, Templars were in the middle of it (weren't they always?)
and
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
Post by a***@hotmail.com
there were dissapearing
galleys loaded with their gold... I would think that by XXI century
most of the people
eventually figured out that the bankers don't keep most of their
capital in a bullion by a simple
reason that, unless invested, it does not bring any profit... But I
must admit that the
dissapearing treasure fleet is much more entertaining.... OTOH, was a
galley an effective
cargo ship? IIRC, most of the sea travel was done in more seaworthy
vessels.
IIRC, one of the authors was on TV in a program dedicated to 'Da
Vinchi
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Code' and was
doing some criticism of the ....er... facts presented in this book.
Post by William Black
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww
weeks...
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Do you prefer buckets of the today's politics? :-)
Post by William Black
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this
and
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
make
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
You just have to find a publisher. The rest is easy. :-)
Just go to
http://www.trafford.com/4dcgi/trafford.html?310191257-13525aaa,
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
as Grant Berkley did. Prices range from 699 to 1399 dollars.
Hah! I would be into it for _getting_ money, not for paying them. :-)
It reminds me of the scene in What's New, Pussycat? where Woody Allen tells
I help the girls dress and undress.
Nice job.
Twenty francs a week.
Not very much.
It's all I can afford
You see, he was getting something tangible for his money. What would I
get for mine besides
useless glory? :-)
Eric Stevens
2005-11-19 08:40:40 UTC
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Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Doug Weller
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
I managed to read few pages from this one and it is rather funny. As
far as I can judge, it is
built on a standard premise 'the public is stupid and will digest
anything': all the known and
seemingly unrelated things are glued together by some clearly phony or
questionable
'links', then some ....er... 'facts' are added (with a correct
assumption that most of the
readers don't have enough knowledge and/or interest to check them) and
voila!
Of course, Templars were in the middle of it (weren't they always?) and
there were dissapearing
galleys loaded with their gold... I would think that by XXI century
most of the people
eventually figured out that the bankers don't keep most of their
capital in a bullion by a simple
reason that, unless invested, it does not bring any profit...
I don't know about the rest of the argument but this part is not quite
correct. Bankers borrow money and bankers lend money. The whole
merry-go-round depends upon a hard core of security which in those
days may very well have comprised chests of bullion.
Post by a***@hotmail.com
But I
must admit that the
dissapearing treasure fleet is much more entertaining.... OTOH, was a
galley an effective
cargo ship? IIRC, most of the sea travel was done in more seaworthy
vessels.
IIRC, one of the authors was on TV in a program dedicated to 'Da Vinchi
Code' and was
doing some criticism of the ....er... facts presented in this book.
Post by Doug Weller
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
Do you prefer buckets of the today's politics? :-)
Post by Doug Weller
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and make
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
You just have to find a publisher. The rest is easy. :-)
Eric Stevens
IE_Johansson
2005-11-19 10:16:43 UTC
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Post by Eric Stevens
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=2
83155
Post by Eric Stevens
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by William Black
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
I managed to read few pages from this one and it is rather funny. As
far as I can judge, it is
built on a standard premise 'the public is stupid and will digest
anything': all the known and
seemingly unrelated things are glued together by some clearly phony or
questionable
'links', then some ....er... 'facts' are added (with a correct
assumption that most of the
readers don't have enough knowledge and/or interest to check them) and
voila!
Of course, Templars were in the middle of it (weren't they always?) and
there were dissapearing
galleys loaded with their gold... I would think that by XXI century
most of the people
eventually figured out that the bankers don't keep most of their
capital in a bullion by a simple
reason that, unless invested, it does not bring any profit...
I don't know about the rest of the argument but this part is not quite
correct. Bankers borrow money and bankers lend money. The whole
merry-go-round depends upon a hard core of security which in those
days may very well have comprised chests of bullion.
Apart from which the Templars weren't bankers, they had administrative
persons who were but themselves they were administrators of land and
defenders of Holy Land and Crusaders.

Inger E
Post by Eric Stevens
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But I
must admit that the
dissapearing treasure fleet is much more entertaining.... OTOH, was a
galley an effective
cargo ship? IIRC, most of the sea travel was done in more seaworthy
vessels.
IIRC, one of the authors was on TV in a program dedicated to 'Da Vinchi
Code' and was
doing some criticism of the ....er... facts presented in this book.
Post by William Black
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
Do you prefer buckets of the today's politics? :-)
Post by William Black
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and make
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
You just have to find a publisher. The rest is easy. :-)
Eric Stevens
Mike Dale
2005-11-19 15:01:22 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and make
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Wanna collaborate? The formula is obviously to pick a person or topic that
is well-known and popular then invent some kind of semi-plausible conspiracy
theory around it.

How about something like "The secret discoveries of Galileo?" You could
suggest that there were other things that caused Galileo to be persecuted by
the Church apart from the Earth going around the Sun, etc., but these have
been hidden in the Vatican archives for hundreds of years because they
reveal secrets too shocking for us to know...! The church was actually
not too upset by his publicly-known astronomical discoveries, but they
feared that the other "secret" stuff might come out, so they forced him to
recant so as to try and reduce his public standing, and also as a threat as
to what they might do to him if he went public with the other stuff. Some
idea of what this "secret other stuff" is would naturally be "revealed" by
discovery of some kind of secret writings or inscriptions of the Templars or
the Freemasons or Opus Dei or the Jesuits some other organization with an
aura of mystery about it.

Make it about 800 pages in paperback with a bold, embossed cover and there
you go!

Mike
William Black
2005-11-19 22:37:21 UTC
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Post by Mike Dale
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Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless. But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Post by Mike Dale
Post by William Black
Scary stuff
I assume this is the next 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
Oh well, if it is we'll get a buckett load in the next feww weeks...
I keep saying that one day I'm going to write something like this and make
enough money to live in luxury for the rest of my life...
Wanna collaborate? The formula is obviously to pick a person or topic that
is well-known and popular then invent some kind of semi-plausible conspiracy
theory around it.
How about something like "The secret discoveries of Galileo?"
I was thinking more about 'The Swords of Weland' which could be tied to
obscure places in England, as well as Arthur, and a modern conspiracy to
preserve the modern descendants of the Ancient Brithonic royal family...

This could be cross coupled with the idea of a secret government ensconced
within the security services of the UK establishment, and give odd and
eldritch explanations for the eccentric architecture used by the various
secret intelligence agencies.

You know, the GCHQ doughnut being the 'female principle', the SIS ziggurat
being male, loads of twaddle like that.
--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
a***@hotmail.com
2005-11-18 15:49:36 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless.
I strongly disagree: they have tremendous entertaining value and I'm
really grateful for you
bringing this stuff in.
Post by Doug Weller
But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
Yes, it is serious and this is a major mistake. How about:

"Arthur being mortally wounded at Camlann: no, how about Arthur being
killed in America by Native Americans, and his body brought back to
Wales for burial. "

Now, this is what I'd call a deep insight. Goes beautifully with the
Minnessota Vikings and
KRS conspiracy. Actually, not so long ago there was a discussion (on
SHM) of the
fighting options of the Vikings (close enough to Arthur & Co) and the
Native Americans with
one side strongly arguing in a favor of the stone weapons. IIRC,
everybody agreed to a
suggestion that if the invaders had time to open a brewery/distillery
and introduce the natives to
the advantages of the distilled liquids, there would be no fighting
whatsoever. In a view of
this conclusion, I'd assume that Arthur had been killed before this was
done or, perhaps
because he was trying to keep store closed on Sundays.

"Why do many regions in the UK claim Arthur? Because there were two
Arthurs, who fought at separate times and in separate places. "

Probably this means that there was more than two Arthurs, one per
claiming region....

"Arthur ll's cousin Madoc Morfran then journeyed to the USA

[Now, it looks like the readers are a little bit confused on identity
of a person who went to
the USA so it is not unreasonable to assume that actually this was
Winston Churchill]


in the 6th Century

[I always was suspicious about all these stories of Boston Tea Party,
American
Revolution and especially about French cooperation (who would believe
_this_) so 6th
century is OK by me]

and vast amounts of evidence are provided for the reader in this
respect."

Which clearly points to WC being 'real' Arthur: a lot of information
about his visits to the
USA.

"I read the book in amazement. This wasn't what those boring tutors had
taught me at school. It wasn't what my Priest told me in church....

[I'm really impressed with the British system of education: it should
be really hard to teach
someone _that_ stupid to read and write]

...Away from the digital playground I went to my local library to see
if what Berkley writes is true; that my history has been perverted,
altered, done away with and destroyed. Sadly and surprisingly, what he
says is true "

It would be probably pointless to ask this stupid cow _how_ did she
discovered the Truth.
My suspicion is that, when in the library she was hit on a head by a
book falling from the
shelf (or by a librarian who lost patience) and after this the Truth
was revealed to her...

"These stones and ruins can be seen by anyone who comes to Wales, -
I've checked, - yet the english establishment, which has forced english
language and history onto the Welsh, and denied their own history and
language for centuries, persist in knocking Wilson and Blackett. "

And the Truth is that it is all a malicious plot of the Perfidious
Albion. Probably arranged by
the Victorians...
Peter Alaca
2005-11-18 17:13:26 UTC
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[...]
[I'm really impressed with the British system of education: it should
be really hard to teach someone _that_ stupid to read and write]
[...]
Probably the writer was educated in southern Sweden.
--
P.A.
a***@hotmail.com
2005-11-18 23:23:02 UTC
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[...]
[I'm really impressed with the British system of education: it should
be really hard to teach someone _that_ stupid to read and write]
[...]
Probably the writer was educated in southern Sweden.
Wrong guess, she is from Cornwall. However, my statement above does not
exclude a possibility of being impressed with another education systems
as
well..... :-)
Philip Deitiker
2005-11-18 23:50:28 UTC
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[...]
it should be really hard to teach someone _that_ stupid to
read and write] [...]
Probably the writer was educated in southern Sweden.
Wrong guess, she is from Cornwall. However, my statement above
does not exclude a possibility of being impressed with another
education systems as
well..... :-)
He's talking about post graduate education, Linchpin University, have
you heard about it? Apparently its gone underground (looking for
atlantis).
a***@hotmail.com
2005-11-19 03:20:24 UTC
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Post by Peter Alaca
[...]
it should be really hard to teach someone _that_ stupid to
read and write] [...]
Probably the writer was educated in southern Sweden.
Wrong guess, she is from Cornwall. However, my statement above
does not exclude a possibility of being impressed with another
education systems as
well..... :-)
He's talking about post graduate education, Linchpin University, have
you heard about it? Apparently its gone underground (looking for
atlantis).
Reading and/or writing skills is a major breakthrough for the people
I'm talking
about. After this, the rest is easy: the less sense you are making, the
more
serious you are looking.
William Black
2005-11-18 17:33:12 UTC
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Post by a***@hotmail.com
"Why do many regions in the UK claim Arthur? Because there were two
Arthurs, who fought at separate times and in separate places. "
Probably this means that there was more than two Arthurs, one per
claiming region....
Just about everywhere in England and Wales has some sort of Arthurian claim.

From Colchester to Carlisle and Berwick to Cornwall you'll find the bloody
man everywhere...
--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
a***@hotmail.com
2005-11-18 23:29:32 UTC
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Post by William Black
Post by a***@hotmail.com
"Why do many regions in the UK claim Arthur? Because there were two
Arthurs, who fought at separate times and in separate places. "
Probably this means that there was more than two Arthurs, one per
claiming region....
Just about everywhere in England and Wales has some sort of Arthurian claim.
From Colchester to Carlisle and Berwick to Cornwall you'll find the bloody
man everywhere...
Just as I said, one Arthur per region.... A single person simply would
not be able
to screw up so many things with so limited resources in such a short
time. :-)
Eric Stevens
2005-11-19 08:43:10 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless.
I strongly disagree: they have tremendous entertaining value and I'm
really grateful for you
bringing this stuff in.
Post by Doug Weller
But an
acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
"Arthur being mortally wounded at Camlann: no, how about Arthur being
killed in America by Native Americans, and his body brought back to
Wales for burial. "
Now, this is what I'd call a deep insight. Goes beautifully with the
Minnessota Vikings and
KRS conspiracy.
Dates are all wrong. :-(
Post by a***@hotmail.com
Actually, not so long ago there was a discussion (on
SHM) of the
fighting options of the Vikings (close enough to Arthur & Co) and the
Native Americans with
one side strongly arguing in a favor of the stone weapons. IIRC,
everybody agreed to a
suggestion that if the invaders had time to open a brewery/distillery
and introduce the natives to
the advantages of the distilled liquids, there would be no fighting
whatsoever. In a view of
this conclusion, I'd assume that Arthur had been killed before this was
done or, perhaps
because he was trying to keep store closed on Sundays.
"Why do many regions in the UK claim Arthur? Because there were two
Arthurs, who fought at separate times and in separate places. "
Probably this means that there was more than two Arthurs, one per
claiming region....
"Arthur ll's cousin Madoc Morfran then journeyed to the USA
[Now, it looks like the readers are a little bit confused on identity
of a person who went to
the USA so it is not unreasonable to assume that actually this was
Winston Churchill]
in the 6th Century
[I always was suspicious about all these stories of Boston Tea Party,
American
Revolution and especially about French cooperation (who would believe
_this_) so 6th
century is OK by me]
and vast amounts of evidence are provided for the reader in this
respect."
Which clearly points to WC being 'real' Arthur: a lot of information
about his visits to the
USA.
"I read the book in amazement. This wasn't what those boring tutors had
taught me at school. It wasn't what my Priest told me in church....
[I'm really impressed with the British system of education: it should
be really hard to teach
someone _that_ stupid to read and write]
...Away from the digital playground I went to my local library to see
if what Berkley writes is true; that my history has been perverted,
altered, done away with and destroyed. Sadly and surprisingly, what he
says is true "
It would be probably pointless to ask this stupid cow _how_ did she
discovered the Truth.
My suspicion is that, when in the library she was hit on a head by a
book falling from the
shelf (or by a librarian who lost patience) and after this the Truth
was revealed to her...
"These stones and ruins can be seen by anyone who comes to Wales, -
I've checked, - yet the english establishment, which has forced english
language and history onto the Welsh, and denied their own history and
language for centuries, persist in knocking Wilson and Blackett. "
And the Truth is that it is all a malicious plot of the Perfidious
Albion. Probably arranged by
the Victorians...
Eric Stevens
Peter Alaca
2005-11-18 17:05:27 UTC
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Post by Doug Weller
All but one of the Amazon reviews are, to put it mildly, worthless.
But an acquaintance of mine, Donald Ball, has written a serious
review, see
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1412026423/103-6438203-2351815?v=glance&n=283155
"At all times, Jim Michael, Alan Wilson, and Barem
Blackett [research collaborators in the study
examined by Berkley], have been careful never
to reveal the Coelbren Ciphers to anyone in
America. So which Sign corresponds to what
modern letter is kept as secret as possible. This
has to be done to avoid allegations of forgery,
although the majority of Coelbren inscriptions
have been well known for very long periods and
were never before identified as British Coelbren.
It also serves to prevent any 'helpful' forged
inscriptions being made."

Wonderfull. That will knock the conspirators
off there feet.
And don't scare your readers off with
index and bibliography, as the next
"Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!"
reviewer reveals.
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