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Vulgate Cycle?
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solar penguin
2006-08-25 19:12:11 UTC
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Hi. Does anyone actually post in this group? It seems pretty dead --
or is it like Arthur himself, just sleeping, waiting rise again when the
time is right?

Anyway, I'm interested in learning more about the early versions of the
Arthurian story. Is there anywhere I can download a translation of the
Vulgate Cycle? I mean, it's centuries old, so it must be public domain.
And even any Victorian translations would be out of copyright by now.
Right? And it seems odd to have to buy a copy, allowing publishers to
make profit on something originally dating back hundreds of years before
publishing was even invented!

Anyway, if anyone know of a good free download for it, please can you
tell me? Thanks.
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John W. Kennedy
2006-08-25 22:32:00 UTC
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Post by solar penguin
Hi. Does anyone actually post in this group? It seems pretty dead --
or is it like Arthur himself, just sleeping, waiting rise again when the
time is right?
It comes and goes.
Post by solar penguin
Anyway, I'm interested in learning more about the early versions of the
Arthurian story. Is there anywhere I can download a translation of the
Vulgate Cycle? I mean, it's centuries old, so it must be public domain.
And even any Victorian translations would be out of copyright by now.
Right? And it seems odd to have to buy a copy, allowing publishers to
make profit on something originally dating back hundreds of years before
publishing was even invented!
Anyway, if anyone know of a good free download for it, please can you
tell me? Thanks.
There is only one English translation of the entire Vulgate (including
the Post-Vulgate, as well), and it was created and published only a few
years ago, but it's already out of print; the publisher, Garland,
specializes in academic books that are mostly sold to university
libraries, and are therefore snapped up immediately.

It's in five folio volumes, amounting to about 2,000,000 words. A
respectable university should have a copy.

Penguin has (or used to have) translations of the Queste and the Morte.
--
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"
solar penguin
2006-08-26 05:46:12 UTC
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Post by John W. Kennedy
There is only one English translation of the entire Vulgate (including
the Post-Vulgate, as well), and it was created and published only a
few years ago, but it's already out of print; the publisher, Garland,
specializes in academic books that are mostly sold to university
libraries, and are therefore snapped up immediately.
Oh, shame about that. Thanks anyway.
Post by John W. Kennedy
Penguin has (or used to have) translations of the Queste and the Morte.
Ok. It looks I'll have to try getting my hands on those then,.

Thanks.
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j***@smartdm.ca
2006-08-28 23:02:50 UTC
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Post by solar penguin
Post by John W. Kennedy
There is only one English translation of the entire Vulgate (including
the Post-Vulgate, as well), and it was created and published only a
few years ago, but it's already out of print; the publisher, Garland,
specializes in academic books that are mostly sold to university
libraries, and are therefore snapped up immediately.
Oh, shame about that. Thanks anyway.
Some of the Garland volumes are apparently still in print or at least
apparently still available new (as well as used) from some vendors.

Do Google searches on the ISBN numbers as follows.

0824077334 for Vol. I
0815307462 for Vol. II
0815307470 for Vol. III
0815307489 for Vol. IV
0815307578 for Vol. V

Note: Amazon.com's information for each volume is incorrectly a review
of the first volume only.

Search also on ISBN 0815334192 for the Lancelot-Grail Reader, a book of
selections from the above five-volume translation of the full Vulgate
cycle.

A text containing selections of a prose medieval English translation of
the Vulgate Merlin can be found at
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/confront.htm .

If you can read medieval French, there are French editions available in
print for most of the above.

A short summary of the Vulgate Lancelot, followed by summaries of the
Vulgate Grail Quest and Vulgate Death of Arthur are available at
http://www.timelessmyths.com/arthurian/lancelot.html

You may also find the Cry of Merlin the Wise available at
http://yarinareth.net/Dorothea/baladro/ interesting. This is a modern
English translation of a medieval Portuguese revision of the medieval
French Post-Vulgate Merlin.

Jallan
Pieter Georgeopoulis
2006-10-18 16:35:21 UTC
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It's a lot easier to learn Latin than find a copy.
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Post by solar penguin
Post by John W. Kennedy
There is only one English translation of the entire Vulgate (including
the Post-Vulgate, as well), and it was created and published only a
few years ago, but it's already out of print; the publisher, Garland,
specializes in academic books that are mostly sold to university
libraries, and are therefore snapped up immediately.
Oh, shame about that. Thanks anyway.
Post by John W. Kennedy
Penguin has (or used to have) translations of the Queste and the Morte.
Ok. It looks I'll have to try getting my hands on those then,.
Thanks.
--
___ _ ___ _
/ __| ___ | | __ _ _ _ | _ \ ___ _ _ __ _ _ _ (_) _ _
\__ \/ _ \| |/ _` || '_| | _// -_)| ' \ / _` || || || || ' \
|___/\___/|_|\__,_||_| |_| \___||_||_|\__, | \_,_||_||_||_|
|___/
http://www.freewebs.com/solar_penguin/
** Jones has another opinion, and he's entitled to express the horror
section.
** She must be, she's married to you!
John W. Kennedy
2006-10-19 01:28:01 UTC
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Post by Pieter Georgeopoulis
It's a lot easier to learn Latin than find a copy.
But irrelevant. The Vulgate is in Old French. (The Post-Vulgate was
originally written in OF, also, but has had to be reconstructed from
surviving French, Castilian, and Portuguese texts.)
--
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"
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