Name of Uther Pendragon's mother?

[Neil Fernandez]

Has someone got a name for Uther Pendragon's mother?

TIA,

Neil

[Bert Olton]

Post by Neil Fernandez
Has someone got a name for Uther Pendragon's mother?
TIA,
Neil

According to the excellent reference work "The Arthurian Name
Dictionary" by Christopher W. Bruce, Uther's mother, as named by Bauduin
Butor, was Ivoine. That, I think, from Geoffrey? Unfortunately,
elsewhere in the same text, Ivoine is listed as a variation of Maine,
Arthur's slain uncle.

Bert

[Neil Fernandez]

Post by Bert Olton

Post by Neil Fernandez
Has someone got a name for Uther Pendragon's mother?
TIA,
Neil

According to the excellent reference work "The Arthurian Name
Dictionary" by Christopher W. Bruce, Uther's mother, as named by Bauduin
Butor, was Ivoine. That, I think, from Geoffrey? Unfortunately,
elsewhere in the same text, Ivoine is listed as a variation of Maine,
Arthur's slain uncle.

Hi Bert,

many thanks for this. But I thought Geoffrey left her unnamed?

Apologies if I'm mistaken. I got this from Fabio Barbieri, who writes in

Post by Bert Olton

Post by Neil Fernandez

Geoffrey tells us nothing about her except that the archbishop
brought her up and that she was very nobly born, but she bore
Constantine three sons, Constans, Aurelius Ambrosius, and Uther
Pendragon.

(http://www.geocities.com/vortigernstudies/fabio/book6.6.htm)

In Bauduin Butor's version, is Ivoine the ward/foster-daughter of
Archbishop Guithelinus?

David Blanchard at http://www.mythiccrossroads.com/Genealogy/2.html
gives Uther's mother as 'Ivoire'. He cites David Ford's site as his
source. I don't know where the latter gets it from.

Best regards,

Neil

[Malcolm Martin]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:17:48 +0100, Neil Fernandez

Post by Neil Fernandez
In Bauduin Butor's version, is Ivoine the ward/foster-daughter of
Archbishop Guithelinus?
David Blanchard at http://www.mythiccrossroads.com/Genealogy/2.html
gives Uther's mother as 'Ivoire'. He cites David Ford's site as his
source. I don't know where the latter gets it from.

Neil

I had a quick flip round to see if I could find a source. The best I could
come across was:

Coghlan, Ronan
THE ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF ARTHURIAN LEGENDS
Element Books Shaftesbury, Dorset 1991

(which may have a note of its own sources?)

This is cited by Celtic Grounds at

http://www.celticgrounds.com/chapters/encyclopedia/i.html

for stating that Ivoire was:

<The sister of Ban who married King Constantine of Britain. They had three
children: Ivoine (Constans), Pandragon (Ambrosius) and Uther. # 156>

and of Ivoine:

<The original name, in French romance, of Moine (Constans). # 156>

with #156 appearing to refer to Coughlan's 'Encylopaedia of Arthurian
Legends'. So, is anyone here able to do a look-up to see if he gives his
sources?



Kind regards

Malcolm Martin
London, UK

[Bert Olton]

Neil Fernandez wrote:

-much clippage-

Post by Neil Fernandez
Hi Bert,
many thanks for this. But I thought Geoffrey left her unnamed?

As did I...I was interpreting the quote in Bruce's text...he's done more
research than I, but I think I was misreading the reference.

Bert

[solitaire]

Post by Bert Olton

Post by Neil Fernandez
Has someone got a name for Uther Pendragon's mother?
TIA,
Neil

According to the excellent reference work "The Arthurian Name
Dictionary" by Christopher W. Bruce, Uther's mother, as named by Bauduin
Butor, was Ivoine. That, I think, from Geoffrey?

_NOT_ from Geoffrey.

[Fitzpatrick]

Post by Neil Fernandez
Has someone got a name for Uther Pendragon's mother?
TIA,
Neil
--
Neil Fernandez

Mrs. Pendragon

[Doc Martian]

Gina. Gina Pendragon.

cheers!
Doc

Post by Neil Fernandez
Has someone got a name for Uther Pendragon's mother?
TIA,
Neil
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Neil Fernandez